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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by neutral 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>neutral 123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im actually a fulham fan ronaldo, and you&#039;re a bit late with the comment... where have you been? trawling the internet to give your irrelevant comment, finally got to this site, welcome and goodbye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im actually a fulham fan ronaldo, and you&#8217;re a bit late with the comment&#8230; where have you been? trawling the internet to give your irrelevant comment, finally got to this site, welcome and goodbye</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by ronaldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liverpool fans defending a racist. No newsflash there...</description>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by neutral 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>neutral 123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@larinx - understanding your point of view, i didnt mean best mates, i just meant no matter how many arguments i have at football, i always shake the hand, IRREGARDLESS of whats been said.

as i said before its the whole issue of what to say, alan hansen had to apologise for saying &#039;coloured&#039;, what is the acceptable word to describe someone, black brown white, whatever... ricketts tweeted &#039; im not coloured, im BLACK&#039;  rob earlier was proud his son didnt use the term black to describe a black boy (when he himself used &#039;black&#039;, does that make him racist? he could have used of african descent, or carribean )... so what is anyone supposed to say. we can claim to say its not a colourless society, becuase it is, its the intent.

in my opinion i dont think he was saying it in an insulting way.

when my mum answers the door to my friends, she&#039;s say &#039; your white friend is here&#039; not in a racist way but as she doesnt know all their names thats how she describes them. i promise you she is not racist!

its been good talking larinx but i think we&#039;ve spent too much time on this subject and neither of our opinions/views will change.

good day sir.

ps i do understand he could have used negro to annoy evra, but i dont think that is what he was trying to do, from my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@larinx &#8211; understanding your point of view, i didnt mean best mates, i just meant no matter how many arguments i have at football, i always shake the hand, IRREGARDLESS of whats been said.</p>
<p>as i said before its the whole issue of what to say, alan hansen had to apologise for saying &#8216;coloured&#8217;, what is the acceptable word to describe someone, black brown white, whatever&#8230; ricketts tweeted &#8216; im not coloured, im BLACK&#8217;  rob earlier was proud his son didnt use the term black to describe a black boy (when he himself used &#8216;black&#8217;, does that make him racist? he could have used of african descent, or carribean )&#8230; so what is anyone supposed to say. we can claim to say its not a colourless society, becuase it is, its the intent.</p>
<p>in my opinion i dont think he was saying it in an insulting way.</p>
<p>when my mum answers the door to my friends, she&#8217;s say &#8216; your white friend is here&#8217; not in a racist way but as she doesnt know all their names thats how she describes them. i promise you she is not racist!</p>
<p>its been good talking larinx but i think we&#8217;ve spent too much time on this subject and neither of our opinions/views will change.</p>
<p>good day sir.</p>
<p>ps i do understand he could have used negro to annoy evra, but i dont think that is what he was trying to do, from my opinion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by Larinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@neutral - there are 500 registered &#039;A&#039; players in the prem and a few hundred more under 21s who don&#039;t need to be reigistered. Let&#039;s say there are 700 premier league players. Are you saying MOST of them are mates? Surely you can&#039;t mean it? Maybe SOME of them are mates. Suarez and Evra surely are not mates. As the above comment from &quot;Seb&quot; states, negrito IS a racial insult when used on someone you&#039;re not close. Suarez knew what he was doing and thought he could get away with it. I guess he wrong. the term negrito is not negro. It&#039;s not just a term for &#039;black&#039;, so there doesn&#039;t need to be another word which follows it to make it racist. We also need to understand the intent. if someone you&#039;re having a confrontation calls you &quot;brown boy&quot; or &quot;brownie&quot; it would make you angry. Much more angry then when your relatives call you that. the intent of Suarez was to make a racial insult and rile Evra. I think most people get this. Even Liverpool fans. They&#039;re just arguining technicalities of the case and are moaning because they hate Evra and United.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neutral &#8211; there are 500 registered &#8216;A&#8217; players in the prem and a few hundred more under 21s who don&#8217;t need to be reigistered. Let&#8217;s say there are 700 premier league players. Are you saying MOST of them are mates? Surely you can&#8217;t mean it? Maybe SOME of them are mates. Suarez and Evra surely are not mates. As the above comment from &#8220;Seb&#8221; states, negrito IS a racial insult when used on someone you&#8217;re not close. Suarez knew what he was doing and thought he could get away with it. I guess he wrong. the term negrito is not negro. It&#8217;s not just a term for &#8216;black&#8217;, so there doesn&#8217;t need to be another word which follows it to make it racist. We also need to understand the intent. if someone you&#8217;re having a confrontation calls you &#8220;brown boy&#8221; or &#8220;brownie&#8221; it would make you angry. Much more angry then when your relatives call you that. the intent of Suarez was to make a racial insult and rile Evra. I think most people get this. Even Liverpool fans. They&#8217;re just arguining technicalities of the case and are moaning because they hate Evra and United.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by neutral 123</title>
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		<dc:creator>neutral 123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@larinx - i definately see what your point is, but these are two professional footballers, and lets face it MOST are mates, alonso and arteta were best mates even though they&#039;re rivals, racism isnt right in any way but i just think as the conversation was in spanish, its normal to go with that flow. like when my brothers cuban girlfriend calls him negrito even though he&#039;s asian...

if its outside a pub with someone i dont know describing me as brown then no as long its description and not following brown with c*nt (as it has happened before)

if he did a sergio busquets and called evra a mono (monkey) thats blatant racism, if its like JT (if he did say it)...then yes its racism. and i always think &#039;white&#039; people are always on teh recieving end of racism in the sense white people are always deemed racist for the smallest things.  at work today i could see people being edgy talking about it incase they seem racist.

also harry redknapp said black and white players are mates in teh dressing room... as he used the word &#039;black&#039; to describe a player does that mean he&#039;s racist?

the whole reply isnt aimed at larinx but just my thoughts.

stamp out racism but i dont think this is the right way, becuase theres so many loose ends. if the FA came down hard on mackie (reading) then THAT would give a better message as theres no doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@larinx &#8211; i definately see what your point is, but these are two professional footballers, and lets face it MOST are mates, alonso and arteta were best mates even though they&#8217;re rivals, racism isnt right in any way but i just think as the conversation was in spanish, its normal to go with that flow. like when my brothers cuban girlfriend calls him negrito even though he&#8217;s asian&#8230;</p>
<p>if its outside a pub with someone i dont know describing me as brown then no as long its description and not following brown with c*nt (as it has happened before)</p>
<p>if he did a sergio busquets and called evra a mono (monkey) thats blatant racism, if its like JT (if he did say it)&#8230;then yes its racism. and i always think &#8216;white&#8217; people are always on teh recieving end of racism in the sense white people are always deemed racist for the smallest things.  at work today i could see people being edgy talking about it incase they seem racist.</p>
<p>also harry redknapp said black and white players are mates in teh dressing room&#8230; as he used the word &#8216;black&#8217; to describe a player does that mean he&#8217;s racist?</p>
<p>the whole reply isnt aimed at larinx but just my thoughts.</p>
<p>stamp out racism but i dont think this is the right way, becuase theres so many loose ends. if the FA came down hard on mackie (reading) then THAT would give a better message as theres no doubt.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by Ronnie Vengan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Vengan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a South African living in my country, let me tell those
people and Liverpool F.C. who support Luis Suarez then you
all are a racist. John Barnes suffered racial abuse when he
played for Liverpool ever since I hated Liverpool.

Its about time the racist minded people must grow up that
black or darker skin are human and have a right to exist.

one is defending a footballer who is a professional, he
must be professional in his attitude. viva non racial viva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a South African living in my country, let me tell those<br />
people and Liverpool F.C. who support Luis Suarez then you<br />
all are a racist. John Barnes suffered racial abuse when he<br />
played for Liverpool ever since I hated Liverpool.</p>
<p>Its about time the racist minded people must grow up that<br />
black or darker skin are human and have a right to exist.</p>
<p>one is defending a footballer who is a professional, he<br />
must be professional in his attitude. viva non racial viva</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said what he said 8 game ban they must have proof simples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said what he said 8 game ban they must have proof simples</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by Robert M. Leighton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert M. Leighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even for Liverpool fans, some of the comments on here are really spectacularly idiotic. People insult other people who are &quot;from another tribe&quot; every day. Every fucking day. What is there not to understand? Suarez is not black. He is part black. So what? He insulted Evra based on Evra&#039;s colour because Suarez does not see himself as black and Evra obviously is. People who are defending Suarez are probably racists themselves. When my son was about 6 years old, he pointed to a boy at the playground and told me that he was a friend. I didn&#039;t know which boy he meant.I asked him to describe the boy. My son said the boy with the curly hair. it was a very proud moment for me. The boy he meant was black and my son didn&#039;t refer to him by his colour. THAT is the impact parents and society can have on a child&#039;s upbringing and Weltanschauung. Suarez didn&#039;t just insult Evra, he insulted Evra&#039;s colour. People on here who said Evra should man up and that Evra is a cry baby should feel ashamed and take a long, good, hard look at themselves. - Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even for Liverpool fans, some of the comments on here are really spectacularly idiotic. People insult other people who are &#8220;from another tribe&#8221; every day. Every fucking day. What is there not to understand? Suarez is not black. He is part black. So what? He insulted Evra based on Evra&#8217;s colour because Suarez does not see himself as black and Evra obviously is. People who are defending Suarez are probably racists themselves. When my son was about 6 years old, he pointed to a boy at the playground and told me that he was a friend. I didn&#8217;t know which boy he meant.I asked him to describe the boy. My son said the boy with the curly hair. it was a very proud moment for me. The boy he meant was black and my son didn&#8217;t refer to him by his colour. THAT is the impact parents and society can have on a child&#8217;s upbringing and Weltanschauung. Suarez didn&#8217;t just insult Evra, he insulted Evra&#8217;s colour. People on here who said Evra should man up and that Evra is a cry baby should feel ashamed and take a long, good, hard look at themselves. &#8211; Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by RedForceRising</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedForceRising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@manure Dear Less intel creature. Please read Seb&#039;s comment. In Uruguay, the word negrito is a racial insult when used to people you are not close too. And one more thing, there is no language called &quot;South American&quot; Generally, the South American countries speak Spanish (and various dialects or native languages) or Portuguese in Brazil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@manure Dear Less intel creature. Please read Seb&#8217;s comment. In Uruguay, the word negrito is a racial insult when used to people you are not close too. And one more thing, there is no language called &#8220;South American&#8221; Generally, the South American countries speak Spanish (and various dialects or native languages) or Portuguese in Brazil.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The most pathetic part of Liverpool&#8217;s statement on Suarez&#8217; ban by RedForceRising</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedForceRising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying that, Seb. So there you have it Liverpool fans? This should shut you up, but I am sure that you will divert the argument yet again. As a fellow country man of Suarez has informed us, the term &#039;negrito&#039; is a racial insult when used with people you&#039;re not close too and Suarez is certainly not on friendly terms with Evra. Suazrez meant it as a racial insult. Please try to understand this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying that, Seb. So there you have it Liverpool fans? This should shut you up, but I am sure that you will divert the argument yet again. As a fellow country man of Suarez has informed us, the term &#8216;negrito&#8217; is a racial insult when used with people you&#8217;re not close too and Suarez is certainly not on friendly terms with Evra. Suazrez meant it as a racial insult. Please try to understand this.</p>
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